Comments on: YAOI NEWS: Handley’s Attorney Addresses Yaoi

By: Lisa

Lisa — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:29:20 +0000

geez it’s a f***ng manga.
I actually started laughin the fist time I heard about this cause I thought it was a joke, when I undrstood that it was for real i just felt frustrated and well sad kind off.
As I said, it’s manga, it might be shota or loli och yaoi or whatever but it’s still just manga. someone just drew it. It’s not like reading a shota or lolicon manga is going to make you rape som kid or anything. Just like reading yaoi isn’t going to make me go out and rape guys (thinking about the hardcore yai now, and yes i’m a girl so i don’t really se the posibility of me raping a guy but yeah you get the picture) It’s just fantasi. Is it illegal to fantasize to? I have read a fex shota but it’s not really my thing so should i go to prison or something stupid like that? i love my yaoi and i wont give it up.
Okej I live in Sweden (which explains my bad english, sorry)and I have no idea about what kind of laws we have for this stuff but i can’t even imagine anyone being convicted for something like that here.
Anyway i just think the whole thing is stupid, you get convicted for child pornographi for reading loli do i get convicted for rape if I read a manga about rape then?

By: Ryuuichi

Ryuuichi — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:04:54 +0000

That’s just crazy. I’ve probably read more shota and yaoi than that man and no one complains about it. Almost all of my classmates know I’m into yaoi and it’s nothing to them. Really, those people have got to loosen up. Get the Feds to go to Otome Road and let’s see how they react.

By: lala

lala — Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:11:34 +0000

What has our country become. Is our government wanting to follow in china footsteps? When books of literature and art were burned because they bred though and were considered obscene. Will we become like that. Has our government become so power hungry, that they have stopped standing up for the things it was built on. Its a sad day indeed when people are afraid to show a book to another.

By: TIMIDmap

TIMIDmap — Mon, 31 May 2010 08:07:19 +0000

Just don’t ship it over seas, which is how Handley was singled out. Also, there are some murmurs about electronics being searched at customs when traveling. The idea is to look for illegal downloading and such, but while they’re at it, they might be looking for child porn or anything else that someone somewhere might deem as inappropriate.

By: Singrinz

Singrinz — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:05:06 +0000

Guys, guys…at least it didn’t happen in the south. THAT would have sucked. I’m a midwesterner and live near the Chicago area. Basically guys, any city is going to be more tolerant of anything because of the mix of people and the amount of people.

Now I down right refuse to throw out any of my yaoi. Crap, that ain’t happening. I guess when I go off to school (Illinois State University) I’ll just have to be more careful about who I show my yaoi to. Or just be careful in general.

By: RL

RL — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:16:01 +0000

I’ve said it like that because of your comment about the Midwest, if you didn’t notice (AKA your last two sentences.) Personally, I like to say almost 80% of the United States swings that way and it does not soley rely in the Midwest. (I am and will always be puzzled by this generalized statement about the Midwest.) Though there is a large difference between the moral standards of northern Midwest and southern Midwest. That, I do not deny.

Also, I don’t think it even makes sense to compare Iowa’s moral laws with gay marriage and gay porn mainly because, in a general sense…gay porn is porn. (I brought up the gay marriage because it shows Iowa’s quick action for not allowing discrimination.) The thing is…people fear porn even more so than violence (for some strange reason.) Because of that, such a thing that we may think as a silly thing becomes a gigantic worry to the vast community when exposed to them. So when porn is what the verdict is charged for, it usually never goes through good no matter location the trial is taking place.

By: Jennifer LeBlanc AKA Asami's Girl

Jennifer LeBlanc AKA Asami's Girl — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:51:36 +0000

As a fellow Wisconsinite (I moved to San Fran last July), I’m betting you’re probably from somewhere around Madison or Milwaukee which is a heck of a lot more liberal than Northern Wisconsin, which is where I’m originally from. No, not ALL of the Midwest is ‘closed minded’ or ‘moral seeking’ (your words, not mine I’d like to point out so where the labeling is coming from I’m not sure) but a lot of it still is. Yes, Iowa did legalize gay marriage and that’s awesome and very surprising. Gay marriage and gay porn are two different things (although to some it isn’t). This is just the reality of the Midwest and if Chris, who lives in Iowa, or his attorney felt they had a chance they wouldn’t have plead out. Clearly based on Chris’s attorney’s statements above, neither felt they could win this one and I don’t blame them given what they were up against.

By: RL

RL — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:08:34 +0000

I wouldn’t be so quickly to label the entire Midwest as closed-minded and moral-seeking. I’m from the Midwest (Southern Wisconsin) and everyone seems to be, for the most part, accepting or able to cope with things outside of their moral bubble. I personally think it strongly depends on the concentrated area of choice (as in what community is judging the verdict.)

And just for the heck of it, you do realize it’s IOWA that legalized gay marriage, right? (They were the third state to do it, too.)

By: Private Please

Private Please — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:14:40 +0000

A halfway house is an overcrowded often privately operated bunk house where convicts are allowed to leave for work and work only. When they get to work they call in. They call in again as required throughout the day. Then they return to the bunk house and are not allowed to leave until it’s time for them to go to work again. They are not allowed to be self-employed or work for a family member. 25% of their pay is paid to the halfway house. Many (most?) Federal halfway houses are a for-profit entities looking to get the maximum amount of profit for the least amount of investment. They don’t have to keep a minimum level of contentment for relative peace like the Federal prison system. They can always ship their problems back to prison.

Unlike a minimum security Federal Prison Camp where first offenders and nonviolent convicts are sent, halfway houses will contain every category of convict from the murderer/rapist who just served 30 years to the white collar embezzler. Recidivism rates are astronomically high for male prisoners in the USA (70% of male convicts in California return to prison in 3 years or less after their release). Crimes that put these men back into prison are routinely committed in halfway houses.

This is not the great concession that his attorney makes it seem. The common notion is that nothing can be worse than prison, hence a halfway house must be a good thing to ask for. There are worse things than prison, particularly the minimum security facility that Handley would be sent to. Just ask the multitude of convicts who try to stay in prison rather than go to them, or ask to return to prison to finish their sentences rather than stay in them.

Most guilty pleas come with a request for alternative sentencing. Every attorney asks for it. They’re supposed to. That doesn’t mean Handley will get it. It’s not up to his attorney. This is for the strict probation officers and Bureau of Prisons to decide. The Federal system is much more severe with punishment than the State court system. They give convicts jail time. Even Martha Stewart couldn’t avoid it. Most guilty pleas made within a sentence guideline, i.e. with a minimum sentence of X months, gets some or all of their sentence in the prison system.

If he gets halfway house time he has 2 weeks or less to find a job or he’s sent to prison to serve out the sentence instead. The unemployment rate averages 10% in the USA. People without a criminal record can’t get jobs. A felon from a halfway house has an even slimmer chance.

The 6 months Handley was sentenced to can not be negated.

By: Jennifer LeBlanc AKA Asami's Girl

Jennifer LeBlanc AKA Asami's Girl — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:51:09 +0000

I agree. He did what he had to do because ultimately HE’S the only one having to deal with the sentence. The CBLDF or any of the other people/agencies that wanted it to be fought through a trial until a verdict aren’t the ones who have to deal with a potential guilty verdict if it came to that and I always felt that was going to be the outcome. It’s Iowa for God’s sake… I’m from the Midwest so I know what I’m talking about. Not somewhere you want to deal with anything that’s considered obscene or “weird”.